Sen. John McCain, against - http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/bin-ladens-death-and-the-debate-over-torture/2011/05/11/AFd1mdsG_story.html CIA Director Leon Panetta quoted as saying the intel for OBL's capture not related to the information gained from KSM.
Mr. John Kiriakou, some indirect results for - http://articles.cnn.com/2007-12-11/politics/agent.tapes_1_waterboarding-cia-director-michael-hayden-cia-agent?_s=PM:POLITICS
Gordon Corera, BBC News Security correspondent, unidentified sources - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11715577 :
Soon after Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was captured, British intelligence officials began receiving intelligence from their US partners. Some of it proved valuable. It helped identify al-Qaeda operatives in the UK and disrupt a plot - still in its early stages - to fly hijacked planes into Canary Wharf.Which is disputed:
...in a number of instances:
The otherwise not terribly stellar intellectual (i.e., conspiracy theory crackpot) Jesse Ventura in a pithy quote reflecting what kind of results can be produced with the technique:
"...you give me a water board, Dick Cheney and one hour, and I'll have him confess to the Sharon Tate murders."http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/jesse-ventura-you-give-me-water-board-dick
The negative long-term effects of being viewed all over the world as a country that tortures people in secret prisons while we tell the same world to follow our lead on human rights, I would hope doesn't need too much elaboration. Let's give the liberals the benefit of the doubt on this one.
What remains then, is Mr. Kiriakou's "indirect" link (he later said he was used by active CIA to spread misinformation regarding the claim that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed lasted 35 seconds) and the assertion by BBC News Security correspondent Gordon Corera that intelligence information received from the US by UK authorities had direct results - who "later realised it came from Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and that he had been waterboarded dozens of time to produce it."
Possibly somewhat effective in short-term efforts to prevent terror attacks and with some serious negative effects in long-term. No or little impact in the hunt for OBL.
My question to fellow intellectuals and political thinkers:
Besides Mr. Kiriakou's indirect link and the unidentified sources of Gordon Corera, is there something I've missed in open sources that's even remotely tangible or concrete, to justify torture? Please cite your sources